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Date: Monday, 22 Apr 2013 02:57
On Mon, 2013-04-22 at 09:37 +0000, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
> Depends. If they are not damaged I'll recycle them into a free pizza.
:)
If I can scrape away a little bit flux it's ok, if not, it depends to
the situation.
You've to measure for short circuit, you have to ensure that the
position of the pins is still ok, to fit to other jacks and you've to
clean them. Seems to be not much time, perhaps 2 minutes only, but it
can become a > 20 minutes job. Miscalculate the time that is needed for
such job happens easily.
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> Depends. If they are not damaged I'll recycle them into a free pizza.
:)
If I can scrape away a little bit flux it's ok, if not, it depends to
the situation.
You've to measure for short circuit, you have to ensure that the
position of the pins is still ok, to fit to other jacks and you've to
clean them. Seems to be not much time, perhaps 2 minutes only, but it
can become a > 20 minutes job. Miscalculate the time that is needed for
such job happens easily.
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Date: Monday, 22 Apr 2013 02:37
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:16:11AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sat, 2013-04-20 at 22:44 +0000, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 04:16:10PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >
> > > Another voice of experience from having attended the wars, thanks Fons.
> >
> > Another essential tool is a bottle of acetone and earbuds
> > to clean out the thick layers of soldering flux that some
> > butchers leave...
>
> I wouldn't clean such jacks, but ditch them.
Depends. If they are not damaged I'll recycle them into a free pizza.
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> On Sat, 2013-04-20 at 22:44 +0000, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 04:16:10PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >
> > > Another voice of experience from having attended the wars, thanks Fons.
> >
> > Another essential tool is a bottle of acetone and earbuds
> > to clean out the thick layers of soldering flux that some
> > butchers leave...
>
> I wouldn't clean such jacks, but ditch them.
Depends. If they are not damaged I'll recycle them into a free pizza.
Ciao,
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Date: Monday, 22 Apr 2013 02:16
On Sat, 2013-04-20 at 22:44 +0000, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 04:16:10PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> > Another voice of experience from having attended the wars, thanks Fons.
>
> Another essential tool is a bottle of acetone and earbuds
> to clean out the thick layers of soldering flux that some
> butchers leave...
I wouldn't clean such jacks, but ditch them.
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> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 04:16:10PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> > Another voice of experience from having attended the wars, thanks Fons.
>
> Another essential tool is a bottle of acetone and earbuds
> to clean out the thick layers of soldering flux that some
> butchers leave...
I wouldn't clean such jacks, but ditch them.
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Date: Monday, 22 Apr 2013 02:09
On Sat, 2013-04-20 at 17:15 +0000, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
> teach the users how to coil a cable after use
+1
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Date: Monday, 22 Apr 2013 02:04
On Sat, 2013-04-20 at 11:58 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> $130 to $250
For that task I'm using an Ersa Multitip C25 at home. I only replaced
the default soldering tip with a soldering tip that keeps free of
tinder.
If I have to solder a cable to pot case etc. I've got a second Ersa with
30 W.
To unsolder I'm using desoldering wick.
IOW, don't pay $130 to $250, but $13 to $25 instead. The best soldering
irons I know are from Ersa, but Ersa soldering iron stations are crap.
The best conventional soldering and desoldering iron stations I know are
from Weller, but even a Monacor Weller-fake is much better than an Ersa.
However a soldering station for amateurs is overkill. The best way to
solder is hot air soldering, I never used it, even not when working
professional. If you have to solder a lot beiing an professional, I
agree with a conventional soldering station for perhaps $130 to $250 or
what ever something like a Weller should cost.
IMO amateurs don't need to solder, but it can't harm to learn it and do
it yourself.
Regarding to the microphony I also disagree with Gene, I recommend to
ask an experienced amateur or professional close to you, to take a look
at the room and then to recommend an elCheapo solution.
If what you are doing should be professional, then you should pay an
professional engineer to do the job.
2 Cents,
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> $130 to $250
For that task I'm using an Ersa Multitip C25 at home. I only replaced
the default soldering tip with a soldering tip that keeps free of
tinder.
If I have to solder a cable to pot case etc. I've got a second Ersa with
30 W.
To unsolder I'm using desoldering wick.
IOW, don't pay $130 to $250, but $13 to $25 instead. The best soldering
irons I know are from Ersa, but Ersa soldering iron stations are crap.
The best conventional soldering and desoldering iron stations I know are
from Weller, but even a Monacor Weller-fake is much better than an Ersa.
However a soldering station for amateurs is overkill. The best way to
solder is hot air soldering, I never used it, even not when working
professional. If you have to solder a lot beiing an professional, I
agree with a conventional soldering station for perhaps $130 to $250 or
what ever something like a Weller should cost.
IMO amateurs don't need to solder, but it can't harm to learn it and do
it yourself.
Regarding to the microphony I also disagree with Gene, I recommend to
ask an experienced amateur or professional close to you, to take a look
at the room and then to recommend an elCheapo solution.
If what you are doing should be professional, then you should pay an
professional engineer to do the job.
2 Cents,
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Date: Monday, 22 Apr 2013 01:46
2013/4/19 Nicola <nicola.di.marzo@...>:
> Il 19/04/2013 19:54, Jeremy Jongepier ha scritto:
>
>> On 04/19/2013 11:11 AM, Nicola wrote:
>>>
>>> That's great, "keep it simple" i should say...that's why i think it's
>>> brilliant!
>>
>>
>> Keep an eye on http://ampbrownie.com/ then, it's an effort to make it even
>> simpler.
>
> I knew it, fascinating project, a little bit expensive with that sound
> card...
>
Really great that project, I'll give it a try and see. First I'll need
to but another SD or try to boot from USB.
>>
>>> yeah, that's what happened to me and i still don't know why.
>>> I'll try to increase the rtprio as well, good tip, thanks!
>>
>>
>> I'll have to check if I have the same issue. I don't recall running into a
>> similar issue.
>>
>>> Maybe there's no need to install Ubuntu.
>>> I found out that there are 2 apps: "Connectbot" and "X server" in the
>>> market that that may do the job with android.
>>> Connectbot doesn't provide the "-X" option so we should set up the
>>> DISPLAY variable accordingly with the ip-port on the X server app.
>>> Maybe i'm just wasting my time but i will give it a try...
>>
>>
>> Ah, so you want to run the guitarix GUI on your tablet! I thought you
>> wanted to control it via MIDI and some touch app. Connectbot is not an
>> option, Android doesn't run X. I've never heard of the other option, sounds
>> interesting, I wonder what the performance and responsiveness is like.
>
> I was able to run guitarix gui on nexus7 with those 2 apps but the result
> wasn't good at all.
> It's ok to run xterm or that kind of simple gui stuff...
> But yeah i also will look for some midi-wireless app to use it like a
> controller as you suggested ;-)
> We still have 2 other possible ways to try to control it with "touch"...with
> gui (with ubuntu) or midi (with android or ubuntu) :-)
>
You can try DSMI[1] (MIDI over wifi server, really simple) and any
MIDI-controller app that supports DSMI directly or OSC on Android,
i.e: Ivory Tower[2]
[1] http://dsmi.tobw.net/
[2] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=uk.co.codeidea.ivorytower&hl;=en
It seems you are trying to achieve that same headless center using
Android as a GUI I've mentioned some times, great. I had some success
with MIDI over wifi, but now I have to get some device and I'm not
sure if that's gonna be an Android+RPi or just some other touch-UMPC
device to run Linux directly instead of
"fighting"/configuring/tweaking again to get whatever to do what I
want.
Maybe you're Nexus is a good choice.
>
>>
>> Jeremy
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> Il 19/04/2013 19:54, Jeremy Jongepier ha scritto:
>
>> On 04/19/2013 11:11 AM, Nicola wrote:
>>>
>>> That's great, "keep it simple" i should say...that's why i think it's
>>> brilliant!
>>
>>
>> Keep an eye on http://ampbrownie.com/ then, it's an effort to make it even
>> simpler.
>
> I knew it, fascinating project, a little bit expensive with that sound
> card...
>
Really great that project, I'll give it a try and see. First I'll need
to but another SD or try to boot from USB.
>>
>>> yeah, that's what happened to me and i still don't know why.
>>> I'll try to increase the rtprio as well, good tip, thanks!
>>
>>
>> I'll have to check if I have the same issue. I don't recall running into a
>> similar issue.
>>
>>> Maybe there's no need to install Ubuntu.
>>> I found out that there are 2 apps: "Connectbot" and "X server" in the
>>> market that that may do the job with android.
>>> Connectbot doesn't provide the "-X" option so we should set up the
>>> DISPLAY variable accordingly with the ip-port on the X server app.
>>> Maybe i'm just wasting my time but i will give it a try...
>>
>>
>> Ah, so you want to run the guitarix GUI on your tablet! I thought you
>> wanted to control it via MIDI and some touch app. Connectbot is not an
>> option, Android doesn't run X. I've never heard of the other option, sounds
>> interesting, I wonder what the performance and responsiveness is like.
>
> I was able to run guitarix gui on nexus7 with those 2 apps but the result
> wasn't good at all.
> It's ok to run xterm or that kind of simple gui stuff...
> But yeah i also will look for some midi-wireless app to use it like a
> controller as you suggested ;-)
> We still have 2 other possible ways to try to control it with "touch"...with
> gui (with ubuntu) or midi (with android or ubuntu) :-)
>
You can try DSMI[1] (MIDI over wifi server, really simple) and any
MIDI-controller app that supports DSMI directly or OSC on Android,
i.e: Ivory Tower[2]
[1] http://dsmi.tobw.net/
[2] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=uk.co.codeidea.ivorytower&hl;=en
It seems you are trying to achieve that same headless center using
Android as a GUI I've mentioned some times, great. I had some success
with MIDI over wifi, but now I have to get some device and I'm not
sure if that's gonna be an Android+RPi or just some other touch-UMPC
device to run Linux directly instead of
"fighting"/configuring/tweaking again to get whatever to do what I
want.
Maybe you're Nexus is a good choice.
>
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
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Date: Monday, 22 Apr 2013 01:40
On 22/04/13 08:40, Tim Goetze wrote:
> [Q]
>> I can't quite put my finger on why I think it sounds a bit like Goblin, it just
>> seemed to have a slightly dark, menacing tone to it, maybe even slightly
>> cinematic (all of which is absolutely fine by me).
>
> There's of course the rainy background, the minor-centrism of the
> harmony and the slight oddness of the beat, but for me the warmth of
> the synth sound provides the prevalent mood.
>
Interesting, they're generally not synths that are regarded as warm and
for the most part it sounds quite thin to me, much of which is due to it
being single oscillator. Although not all the sounds are thin and the
layering of other parts has overcome it as well.
Sounding thin isn't a problem, in fact, I don't think the woodwind
emulations would sound as good, but it certainly lacks the fullness and
warmth of a Moog. It's interesting how subjective these things are and
how totally inadequate language can be at describing them :-)
>> But one thing's for sure, it sounds absolutely nothing like Genesis :-)
>
> Heh, I'll have to trust you on that, seeing that I know next to
> nothing they made (but perhaps you already know that :). In any case,
> to me it matters not where you take it from, but where you take it to.
Well, certain instrumentation made me think that that was a probably
direction, but my muse obviously had other ideas. Just goes to show it's
not the tools you use, but how you use them that is important :-)
Cheers
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> [Q]
>> I can't quite put my finger on why I think it sounds a bit like Goblin, it just
>> seemed to have a slightly dark, menacing tone to it, maybe even slightly
>> cinematic (all of which is absolutely fine by me).
>
> There's of course the rainy background, the minor-centrism of the
> harmony and the slight oddness of the beat, but for me the warmth of
> the synth sound provides the prevalent mood.
>
Interesting, they're generally not synths that are regarded as warm and
for the most part it sounds quite thin to me, much of which is due to it
being single oscillator. Although not all the sounds are thin and the
layering of other parts has overcome it as well.
Sounding thin isn't a problem, in fact, I don't think the woodwind
emulations would sound as good, but it certainly lacks the fullness and
warmth of a Moog. It's interesting how subjective these things are and
how totally inadequate language can be at describing them :-)
>> But one thing's for sure, it sounds absolutely nothing like Genesis :-)
>
> Heh, I'll have to trust you on that, seeing that I know next to
> nothing they made (but perhaps you already know that :). In any case,
> to me it matters not where you take it from, but where you take it to.
Well, certain instrumentation made me think that that was a probably
direction, but my muse obviously had other ideas. Just goes to show it's
not the tools you use, but how you use them that is important :-)
Cheers
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Date: Monday, 22 Apr 2013 00:40
[Q]
> I can't quite put my finger on why I think it sounds a bit like Goblin, it just
> seemed to have a slightly dark, menacing tone to it, maybe even slightly
> cinematic (all of which is absolutely fine by me).
There's of course the rainy background, the minor-centrism of the
harmony and the slight oddness of the beat, but for me the warmth of
the synth sound provides the prevalent mood.
> But one thing's for sure, it sounds absolutely nothing like Genesis :-)
Heh, I'll have to trust you on that, seeing that I know next to
nothing they made (but perhaps you already know that :). In any case,
to me it matters not where you take it from, but where you take it to.
Cheers,
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> I can't quite put my finger on why I think it sounds a bit like Goblin, it just
> seemed to have a slightly dark, menacing tone to it, maybe even slightly
> cinematic (all of which is absolutely fine by me).
There's of course the rainy background, the minor-centrism of the
harmony and the slight oddness of the beat, but for me the warmth of
the synth sound provides the prevalent mood.
> But one thing's for sure, it sounds absolutely nothing like Genesis :-)
Heh, I'll have to trust you on that, seeing that I know next to
nothing they made (but perhaps you already know that :). In any case,
to me it matters not where you take it from, but where you take it to.
Cheers,
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Date: Sunday, 21 Apr 2013 22:33
Hi,
These last few days I found some time to work on ladspa.m.lv2, an LV2
plugin to load ladspa.m.proto instrument definition files:
https://github.com/fps/ladspa.m.lv2
It is in a somewhat usable state, i.e. used in ardour3 it loads the
example instrument generated by this python script:
https://github.com/fps/ladspa.m.proto/blob/master/example_instrument.py
which is a very simple polyphonic sawtooth synth with exponential
envelopes and an echo with differing delay times per voice. There's
still some things to do (e.g. expose control ports, implement
All-Notes-Off midi messages, lots of optimizations - right now I care
more for correctness than for efficiency, etc.) and I also have some
questions:
1] This one is regarding waf. I'm not used to writing wscript files and
I adapted the whole thing from the example sampler from the
LV2-distribution. I wonder how I can make waf to use e.g. -fPIC and
other compiler flags needed for my 64-bit system. Right now I have put a
little makefile into the repository which passes the missing options
along as CXXFLAGS environment variable. This is a dirty hack. So if
anyone waf guru might want to take a look, I'd be so ever grateful.
https://github.com/fps/ladspa.m.lv2/blob/master/makefile
https://github.com/fps/ladspa.m.lv2/blob/master/wscript
2] I'm a little bit puzzled by how the patch_set messages together with
the LV2 worker extension works. If you take a look at this run() function
https://github.com/fps/ladspa.m.lv2/blob/master/instrument.cc#L702
you'll see that I have an extra LV2_ATOM_SEQUENCE_FOR_EACH at the start
of the function to process the patch_set messages. I tried to integrate
that into the loop later on (that iterates over the sample_count frames
and lets the midi events take effect at their respective frame), but
once I do that, patch loading stops to work. I must be missing something
fundamental. So if any LV2 guru might want to take a look, I'd be very
grateful, too
Thanks and have fun,
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Date: Sunday, 21 Apr 2013 22:17
On 04/20/2013 10:22 PM, Nils Gey wrote:
> Laborejo 0.7 is released.
>
> Together with a new website design http://www.laborejo.org comes a new release of the Music Notation Workshop.
> Besides the usual fixes and small enhancements please focus your attention on the following new features:
> -Non Session Manager support. Start Laborejo through the NSM Gui and it will be under session management
>
> -Numpad Palette and corresponding shortcuts. A gui widget shows you what musical objects your numpad will insert.
> You can change the palette through the menu or by switching through with numpad-plus and numpad-minus.
>
> -A moving playback cursor, showing you which part of Bachs "Kunst der Fuge" you currently don't understand
>
>
> Laborejo -Music Notation Workshop- is a graphical user interface for Lilypond, a MIDI creator and finally a tool collection to inspire and help you compose. You get beautifully engraved notation through Lilypond and nice ways to control the playback without ever leaving a notation-based environment.
>
> Latest Screenshot:
> http://www.laborejo.org/latestscreenshot.png
>Hi, great work on the website. Looks very nice. And also kudos for
working on Laborejo. It's a very useful project
Flo
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> Laborejo 0.7 is released.
>
> Together with a new website design http://www.laborejo.org comes a new release of the Music Notation Workshop.
> Besides the usual fixes and small enhancements please focus your attention on the following new features:
> -Non Session Manager support. Start Laborejo through the NSM Gui and it will be under session management
>
> -Numpad Palette and corresponding shortcuts. A gui widget shows you what musical objects your numpad will insert.
> You can change the palette through the menu or by switching through with numpad-plus and numpad-minus.
>
> -A moving playback cursor, showing you which part of Bachs "Kunst der Fuge" you currently don't understand
>
>
> Laborejo -Music Notation Workshop- is a graphical user interface for Lilypond, a MIDI creator and finally a tool collection to inspire and help you compose. You get beautifully engraved notation through Lilypond and nice ways to control the playback without ever leaving a notation-based environment.
>
> Latest Screenshot:
> http://www.laborejo.org/latestscreenshot.png
>
working on Laborejo. It's a very useful project
Flo
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Date: Sunday, 21 Apr 2013 21:19
On Sun, April 21, 2013 1:28 pm, Gabbe Nord wrote:
> Hello Len and all others!
>
> I don't quite get what you mean, sorry. Could you perhaps elaborate a
> little (read: explain to me like I'm 5 years old ;) ). Thanks a ton for
> trying!
From one 5 year old to another :)
> Here's a picture of my QASMixer with the inputs as well:
> http://www.imagebam.com/image/fef059250185749
I am assuming this is hw:Juli or hw:Juli,0 I am not seeing any input
levels still. I would assume that moving any of the red controls also
moves the blue ones next to them. That actually makes sense. There should
not be any controls for a spdif input as levels would be on the spdif
preamp end. I think it will be the same on the spdif output which looks to
be a copy of the DAC output> I do not know if that can be changed, it
would depend on which port the card uses for it's output (the chip looks
to support up to 10 output channels including spdif).
BTW, the mixer only show controls, which in your case is not helping, you
need to see the ports as well.
>
> What I've tried (with no success):
>
> * Setting the hw:Juli,1 as input (to access the S/PDIF in that way) and
> hw:Juli,0 as output (to still output through my speakers in JACK)
> * Using zita-j2a -d hw:Juli,1 which proved to only give access to the
> outputs
> * Using zita-a2j -d hw:Juli,1 which seems to not be able to start
> synchronization (it just keeps spamming "Starting synchronization." in the
> terminal)
Which makes sense seeing as you are already using hw:Juli,1 with jack so
zita can't use the same lines.
What happens if you just set jack to hw:Juli,0 for both in and out on
jack? do you get analog in and out? If so good.
then maybe set zita-a2j -d hw:Juli,1 for spdif in and zita-j2a -d
hw:Juli,1 for the output. Does it work?
I'll look for a bit more info... I don't have one myself, so it a mix of
experience on what I do have and research on what you have.
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Date: Sunday, 21 Apr 2013 13:28
Hello Len and all others!
I don't quite get what you mean, sorry. Could you perhaps elaborate a little (read: explain to me like I'm 5 years old ;) ). Thanks a ton for trying!Here's a picture of my QASMixer with the inputs as well: http://www.imagebam.com/image/fef059250185749
Thanks again for all the help!
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Len Ovens <len@...> wrote:
Those should all be outputs... there is a little microphone icon at the
On Sat, April 13, 2013 4:41 am, Gabbe Nord wrote:
> Hey again all, and thank you very much for your replies!
>
> If possible, I'd love to use both analogue and S/PDIF ins at the same
> time,
> but I can live with having to restart JACK and switch if necessary.
> I'm pretty sure the card should let me clock everything together, so how
> would I do the device combining?
>
> Here's how my QASMixer looks:
> http://www.imagebam.com/image/c260db248663422
> Maybe that can be a lead?
>
> I'm at a halt here, I don't know how I should go about testing and
> tweaking
> this more.
bottom that should show the inputs when clicked. From what you have there
it looks like you can monitor all 4 inputs... stereo analog and stereo
s/pdif. This doesn't mean anything so far as where your inputs are.
Looking at the block diagram of the 1724, the output mixing is internal
and apart from the pci IF. The good thing being that in order to be able
to mix them like that they should be in sync. You should be able to move
an input from spdif left to spdif right to line left to line right and get
sound out without touching anything on your mixer... this is still not
inputs into the computer, just direct monitor.
QAS should let you see inputs as well as outputs at the same time.
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On 21/04/13 12:11, Tim Goetze wrote:
> [Q]
>> The piece has turned out a completely different way to what I was expecting
>> before I set out, ending up with a bit of a Goblin horror soundtrack vibe, so I
>> gave it an appropriate (and also slightly topical) title.
>
> I must be living a goblin's life, it sounded perfectly cozy to me!
>
> Thanks,
> Tim
Thanks for listening, glad you enjoyed it!
I can't quite put my finger on why I think it sounds a bit like Goblin,
it just seemed to have a slightly dark, menacing tone to it, maybe even
slightly cinematic (all of which is absolutely fine by me).
But one thing's for sure, it sounds absolutely nothing like Genesis :-)
Cheers
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> [Q]
>> The piece has turned out a completely different way to what I was expecting
>> before I set out, ending up with a bit of a Goblin horror soundtrack vibe, so I
>> gave it an appropriate (and also slightly topical) title.
>
> I must be living a goblin's life, it sounded perfectly cozy to me!
>
> Thanks,
> Tim
Thanks for listening, glad you enjoyed it!
I can't quite put my finger on why I think it sounds a bit like Goblin,
it just seemed to have a slightly dark, menacing tone to it, maybe even
slightly cinematic (all of which is absolutely fine by me).
But one thing's for sure, it sounds absolutely nothing like Genesis :-)
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Date: Sunday, 21 Apr 2013 07:10
hallo,
cheers for the new release!
builds fine here on aptosid with:
./waf configure --prefix=/usr --disable-nls --optimization --build-lv2
i do no know if you are interested in few warnings i get here:
[541/625] cxx: src/LV2/gx_studiopre.lv2/widget.cpp ->
build/default/src/LV2/gx_studiopre.lv2/widget_2.o
../src/LV2/gx_studiopre.lv2/widget.cpp: In member function ‘void
Widget::make_label(Gtk::Box*, Glib::ustring, bool)’:
../src/LV2/gx_studiopre.lv2/widget.cpp:312:15: warning: unused variable
‘b1’ [-Wunused-variable]
../src/LV2/gx_studiopre.lv2/widget.cpp:313:15: warning: unused variable
‘b2’ [-Wunused-variable]
[542/625] cxx: src/LV2/gx_studiopre.lv2/gx_studiopre_gui.cpp ->
build/default/src/LV2/gx_studiopre.lv2/gx_studiopre_gui_2.o
...
[544/625] cxx: src/LV2/gx_studiopre_st.lv2/widget.cpp ->
build/default/src/LV2/gx_studiopre_st.lv2/widget_2.o
../src/LV2/gx_studiopre_st.lv2/widget.cpp: In member function ‘void
Widget::make_label(Gtk::Box*, Glib::ustring, bool)’:
../src/LV2/gx_studiopre_st.lv2/widget.cpp:347:15: warning: unused
variable ‘b1’ [-Wunused-variable]
../src/LV2/gx_studiopre_st.lv2/widget.cpp:348:15: warning: unused
variable ‘b2’ [-Wunused-variable]
[545/625] cxx: src/LV2/gx_studiopre_st.lv2/gx_studiopre_st_gui.cpp ->
build/default/src/LV2/gx_studiopre_st.lv2/gx_studiopre_st_gui_2.o
...
[570/625] cxx: src/LV2/gx_zita_rev1.lv2/gx_zita_rev1.cpp ->
build/default/src/LV2/gx_zita_rev1.lv2/gx_zita_rev1_5.o
In file included from ../src/LV2/gx_zita_rev1.lv2/gx_zita_rev1.cpp:26:0:
default/src/LV2/faust/gx_zita_rev1.cc:151:20: warning:
‘gx_zita_rev1::parm_groups’ defined but not used [-Wunused-variable]
[571/625] cxx: src/LV2/gx_zita_rev1.lv2/widget.cpp ->
build/default/src/LV2/gx_zita_rev1.lv2/widget_2.o
...
cheers,
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cheers for the new release!
builds fine here on aptosid with:
./waf configure --prefix=/usr --disable-nls --optimization --build-lv2
i do no know if you are interested in few warnings i get here:
[541/625] cxx: src/LV2/gx_studiopre.lv2/widget.cpp ->
build/default/src/LV2/gx_studiopre.lv2/widget_2.o
../src/LV2/gx_studiopre.lv2/widget.cpp: In member function ‘void
Widget::make_label(Gtk::Box*, Glib::ustring, bool)’:
../src/LV2/gx_studiopre.lv2/widget.cpp:312:15: warning: unused variable
‘b1’ [-Wunused-variable]
../src/LV2/gx_studiopre.lv2/widget.cpp:313:15: warning: unused variable
‘b2’ [-Wunused-variable]
[542/625] cxx: src/LV2/gx_studiopre.lv2/gx_studiopre_gui.cpp ->
build/default/src/LV2/gx_studiopre.lv2/gx_studiopre_gui_2.o
...
[544/625] cxx: src/LV2/gx_studiopre_st.lv2/widget.cpp ->
build/default/src/LV2/gx_studiopre_st.lv2/widget_2.o
../src/LV2/gx_studiopre_st.lv2/widget.cpp: In member function ‘void
Widget::make_label(Gtk::Box*, Glib::ustring, bool)’:
../src/LV2/gx_studiopre_st.lv2/widget.cpp:347:15: warning: unused
variable ‘b1’ [-Wunused-variable]
../src/LV2/gx_studiopre_st.lv2/widget.cpp:348:15: warning: unused
variable ‘b2’ [-Wunused-variable]
[545/625] cxx: src/LV2/gx_studiopre_st.lv2/gx_studiopre_st_gui.cpp ->
build/default/src/LV2/gx_studiopre_st.lv2/gx_studiopre_st_gui_2.o
...
[570/625] cxx: src/LV2/gx_zita_rev1.lv2/gx_zita_rev1.cpp ->
build/default/src/LV2/gx_zita_rev1.lv2/gx_zita_rev1_5.o
In file included from ../src/LV2/gx_zita_rev1.lv2/gx_zita_rev1.cpp:26:0:
default/src/LV2/faust/gx_zita_rev1.cc:151:20: warning:
‘gx_zita_rev1::parm_groups’ defined but not used [-Wunused-variable]
[571/625] cxx: src/LV2/gx_zita_rev1.lv2/widget.cpp ->
build/default/src/LV2/gx_zita_rev1.lv2/widget_2.o
...
cheers,
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Am 21.04.2013 13:35, schrieb Hartmut Noack:
> Am 21.04.2013 11:57, schrieb hermann meyer:
>> Am 21.04.2013 11:29, schrieb Jeremy Jongepier:
>>> On 04/21/2013 11:22 AM, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>>> ../libgxw/gxw/GxFastMeter.cpp:153:13: nicht implementiert: Graphite loop
>>>> optimizations can only be used if the libcloog-ppl0 package is installed
>>> Hello Hartmut,
>>>
>>> If you want to build guitarix with the --optimization flag you need to
>>> install libcloog-ppl0.
>>>
>>> Jeremy
> Thanks a lot! That cuts it, It now buids OK.
> Maybe configure should check for that lib? ;-)
>
>
>>> _______________________________________________
>> And if you like to check out the LV2 plugs, you need to add --build-lv2
>> to the configure command. ;-)
> Did so and it works just fine! Have the amp in Ardour3 -- the skins look
> awsome and it sounds just great! Anyway I like the GX-amp in itself
> most, so to have the core of Guitarix as a single module has some charme
> for me....
>
> Think I'll report that to my magazine-editor;-)
>
> best regards
>
> HZN
> BTW: maybe I could update the website?
>
That will be very welcome, both :-D
A updated site to reflect the state will be awesome.
I've just move the forum to the project web space, because sourcforge
will skip all hosted apps and force the project maintainers to migrate
to there web space. I need to migrate the wikki as next.
However, last time you've worked on the website, you've ask for mysql
support, for the forum I needed to setup a mysql data base, so it is now
available for the webpage as well.
Like ever, you have full access to the website and have the permission
to change /rework it to your taste. (He, I trust your taste. :-) )
For the mysql database I could send you the admin access data in
private, just let me know when you need /wont them.
Eh, the new forum link:
http://guitarix.sourceforge.net/forum/
Ah, for the skins, I'm not so happy with the results for GxAmplifier-X,
I could really need some help from a skillful designer.
greets
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> Am 21.04.2013 11:57, schrieb hermann meyer:
>> Am 21.04.2013 11:29, schrieb Jeremy Jongepier:
>>> On 04/21/2013 11:22 AM, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>>> ../libgxw/gxw/GxFastMeter.cpp:153:13: nicht implementiert: Graphite loop
>>>> optimizations can only be used if the libcloog-ppl0 package is installed
>>> Hello Hartmut,
>>>
>>> If you want to build guitarix with the --optimization flag you need to
>>> install libcloog-ppl0.
>>>
>>> Jeremy
> Thanks a lot! That cuts it, It now buids OK.
> Maybe configure should check for that lib? ;-)
>
>
>>> _______________________________________________
>> And if you like to check out the LV2 plugs, you need to add --build-lv2
>> to the configure command. ;-)
> Did so and it works just fine! Have the amp in Ardour3 -- the skins look
> awsome and it sounds just great! Anyway I like the GX-amp in itself
> most, so to have the core of Guitarix as a single module has some charme
> for me....
>
> Think I'll report that to my magazine-editor;-)
>
> best regards
>
> HZN
> BTW: maybe I could update the website?
>
That will be very welcome, both :-D
A updated site to reflect the state will be awesome.
I've just move the forum to the project web space, because sourcforge
will skip all hosted apps and force the project maintainers to migrate
to there web space. I need to migrate the wikki as next.
However, last time you've worked on the website, you've ask for mysql
support, for the forum I needed to setup a mysql data base, so it is now
available for the webpage as well.
Like ever, you have full access to the website and have the permission
to change /rework it to your taste. (He, I trust your taste. :-) )
For the mysql database I could send you the admin access data in
private, just let me know when you need /wont them.
Eh, the new forum link:
http://guitarix.sourceforge.net/forum/
Ah, for the skins, I'm not so happy with the results for GxAmplifier-X,
I could really need some help from a skillful designer.
greets
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Date: Sunday, 21 Apr 2013 04:35
Am 21.04.2013 11:57, schrieb hermann meyer:
> Am 21.04.2013 11:29, schrieb Jeremy Jongepier:
>> On 04/21/2013 11:22 AM, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>> ../libgxw/gxw/GxFastMeter.cpp:153:13: nicht implementiert: Graphite loop
>>> optimizations can only be used if the libcloog-ppl0 package is installed
>>
>> Hello Hartmut,
>>
>> If you want to build guitarix with the --optimization flag you need to
>> install libcloog-ppl0.
>>
>> Jeremy
Thanks a lot! That cuts it, It now buids OK.
Maybe configure should check for that lib? ;-)
>> _______________________________________________
>
> And if you like to check out the LV2 plugs, you need to add --build-lv2
> to the configure command. ;-)
Did so and it works just fine! Have the amp in Ardour3 -- the skins look
awsome and it sounds just great! Anyway I like the GX-amp in itself
most, so to have the core of Guitarix as a single module has some charme
for me....
Think I'll report that to my magazine-editor;-)
best regards
HZN
BTW: maybe I could update the website?
>
> greets
> hermann
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> Am 21.04.2013 11:29, schrieb Jeremy Jongepier:
>> On 04/21/2013 11:22 AM, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>> ../libgxw/gxw/GxFastMeter.cpp:153:13: nicht implementiert: Graphite loop
>>> optimizations can only be used if the libcloog-ppl0 package is installed
>>
>> Hello Hartmut,
>>
>> If you want to build guitarix with the --optimization flag you need to
>> install libcloog-ppl0.
>>
>> Jeremy
Thanks a lot! That cuts it, It now buids OK.
Maybe configure should check for that lib? ;-)
>> _______________________________________________
>
> And if you like to check out the LV2 plugs, you need to add --build-lv2
> to the configure command. ;-)
Did so and it works just fine! Have the amp in Ardour3 -- the skins look
awsome and it sounds just great! Anyway I like the GX-amp in itself
most, so to have the core of Guitarix as a single module has some charme
for me....
Think I'll report that to my magazine-editor;-)
best regards
HZN
BTW: maybe I could update the website?
>
> greets
> hermann
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Date: Sunday, 21 Apr 2013 04:11
[Q]
> The piece has turned out a completely different way to what I was expecting
> before I set out, ending up with a bit of a Goblin horror soundtrack vibe, so I
> gave it an appropriate (and also slightly topical) title.
I must be living a goblin's life, it sounded perfectly cozy to me!
Thanks,
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> The piece has turned out a completely different way to what I was expecting
> before I set out, ending up with a bit of a Goblin horror soundtrack vibe, so I
> gave it an appropriate (and also slightly topical) title.
I must be living a goblin's life, it sounded perfectly cozy to me!
Thanks,
Tim
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Date: Sunday, 21 Apr 2013 03:44
There are a couple of guitar-like bass-register instruments in Spanish-speaking folk music (the bajo sexto and the guitarron) but neither of them is exactly an acoustic bass guitar (tuning, range, number of strings differ). They are certainly acoustic instruments. My point was that the acoustic bass guitar usually is employed as a "hollowbody electric bass", so the straightforward path to recording it is to use a DI as you would an electric bass.
Of course you can and should experiment with pointing mics at anything that might make an interesting sound! It just sounded like the original poster was looking for basic advice.
Note: I'm a bass player (double bass and electric) so I have strong opinions about this stuff :)
Thanks,
Bill Gribble
On Apr 20, 2013, at 23:20, Bob van der Poel <bob@...> wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Bill Gribble <grib@...> wrote:
>> An "acoustic bass guitar" is a bit of an oxymoron. The whole idea of it was
>> invented for "MTV Unplugged" so that bass players who couldn't play a double
>> bass would have something to do. Nobody ever hears them acoustically, they
>> just can't keep up with an unplugged band. You need a much bigger body to
>> decently reproduce low frequency sound. So forget about mic technique, use
>> a good DI, and treat it like an electric bass, which it is.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill Gribble
>
> Isn't an acoustic bass (ie, a great big guitar) an essential part of a
> Mariachi Band? Or are you guys talking about something else?
>
> --
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Of course you can and should experiment with pointing mics at anything that might make an interesting sound! It just sounded like the original poster was looking for basic advice.
Note: I'm a bass player (double bass and electric) so I have strong opinions about this stuff :)
Thanks,
Bill Gribble
On Apr 20, 2013, at 23:20, Bob van der Poel <bob@...> wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Bill Gribble <grib@...> wrote:
>> An "acoustic bass guitar" is a bit of an oxymoron. The whole idea of it was
>> invented for "MTV Unplugged" so that bass players who couldn't play a double
>> bass would have something to do. Nobody ever hears them acoustically, they
>> just can't keep up with an unplugged band. You need a much bigger body to
>> decently reproduce low frequency sound. So forget about mic technique, use
>> a good DI, and treat it like an electric bass, which it is.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill Gribble
>
> Isn't an acoustic bass (ie, a great big guitar) an essential part of a
> Mariachi Band? Or are you guys talking about something else?
>
> --
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On 20/04/13 21:33, Len Ovens wrote:
>
> On Sat, April 20, 2013 12:59 pm, Q wrote:
>
>> It's nothing special rhythmically: starts in 11/8, then 10/8, then
>> free-form, then 10/8 and finally back to 11/8 with the reprise. I tend
>> not to solo "in time", just continuing a phrase until it ends, wherever
>> that may be, so I guess that makes it seem a little more complex than it
>> really is.
>
> Thankyou for the explanation. That explains the feel timing wise. I wasn't
> paying that much attention to the beat but just felt it was different. (It
> has been a long time since I did much drumming, but I should have caught
> it anyway)
I went (mostly) for fairly simple drumming on this and it was a bit
difficult to know where to put the boom and the chick with it not being
in 4/4.
I guess the fact that it just felt a bit different but didn't scream odd
time signature suggests I was successful -- I always try to make things
feel natural and not draw attention to the "oddness".
>> I've not consciously done anything different with my drum processing --
>> probably just slightly less unskilled use of EQ and compression. Same
>> for the mix as a whole. Perhaps I'm actually learning.
>>
>> But I don't have any standard ways of doing things, I just process stuff
>> in what seems to be the best way at the time that I'm doing it.
>>
>> I tend to lean towards more sparing use of reverb, although probably not
>> as sparing as a lot of classic prog from the 70s. I think too little is
>> probably better than too much, so better to go easy.
>
> It is always good to hear how something was mixed/effected. I am still
> just learning. I do tend to go over on the reverb I think, good pointer.
>
Over-use of reverb is something one sees fairly consistently mentioned
as a give-away for an amateur mix. Of course, I suspect there's a wide
range of wetness that would be acceptable and just accounted for by
different tastes before you start getting into the "definitely too much"
territory.
I've just re-opened my session to look at the drum processing. Normally,
I only ever use EQ subtractively, but I used a new tool that didn't
always allow that. But I think it's all fairly basic high-passing
(usually aggressively so on cymbals), scooping out the mids, maybe a bit
of a low end tip on the drums, rolling off a bit of high-end on the
snare (I don't like them too crispy), maybe a bit of a high end lift on
the cymbals, that sort of thing.
> I haven't really tried out A3 yet, I am still working with A2 as my DAW. I
> don't find it limiting though as I record all analog signals right now. I
> have MIDI equipment, but I am still exploring having lots of tracks. When
> I was last recording, I had only 4 tracks and so using one for timecode so
> I could track drums and some other things as MIDI was worthwhile (almost
> 20years ago). Having unlimited tracks is a new experience :)
>
Normally, the only thing I use midi for is over USB to control
LinuxSampler or Hammond and Mellotron virtual instruments. I only have
three synths with midi capability, everything else pre-dates it. Like
you, I record audio played live.
However, I did have to use Ardour's midi capabilities as Hydrogen and
Ardour wouldn't play along nicely, with a weird phasing issue on cymbals
at tempo changes. So, I exported a midi file from H2, imported it into
A3 and drove H2 from Ardour to record the audio.
I've seen people say that "limitless" tracks is a curse, people just
pile on many more layers to the detriment of the music. I might be
partially guilty of that, but I do feel some genres demand more and it
certainly isn't helped by working with non-programmable monophonic
synths to build sounds. I have just counted the tracks and busses...
yikes, 100! Many of those are disabled and others are bounces of three
or four of the disabled ones. I always feel very limited by processing
power as a mix draws to a close :-)
Anyway, thanks for listening.
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> On Sat, April 20, 2013 12:59 pm, Q wrote:
>
>> It's nothing special rhythmically: starts in 11/8, then 10/8, then
>> free-form, then 10/8 and finally back to 11/8 with the reprise. I tend
>> not to solo "in time", just continuing a phrase until it ends, wherever
>> that may be, so I guess that makes it seem a little more complex than it
>> really is.
>
> Thankyou for the explanation. That explains the feel timing wise. I wasn't
> paying that much attention to the beat but just felt it was different. (It
> has been a long time since I did much drumming, but I should have caught
> it anyway)
I went (mostly) for fairly simple drumming on this and it was a bit
difficult to know where to put the boom and the chick with it not being
in 4/4.
I guess the fact that it just felt a bit different but didn't scream odd
time signature suggests I was successful -- I always try to make things
feel natural and not draw attention to the "oddness".
>> I've not consciously done anything different with my drum processing --
>> probably just slightly less unskilled use of EQ and compression. Same
>> for the mix as a whole. Perhaps I'm actually learning.
>>
>> But I don't have any standard ways of doing things, I just process stuff
>> in what seems to be the best way at the time that I'm doing it.
>>
>> I tend to lean towards more sparing use of reverb, although probably not
>> as sparing as a lot of classic prog from the 70s. I think too little is
>> probably better than too much, so better to go easy.
>
> It is always good to hear how something was mixed/effected. I am still
> just learning. I do tend to go over on the reverb I think, good pointer.
>
Over-use of reverb is something one sees fairly consistently mentioned
as a give-away for an amateur mix. Of course, I suspect there's a wide
range of wetness that would be acceptable and just accounted for by
different tastes before you start getting into the "definitely too much"
territory.
I've just re-opened my session to look at the drum processing. Normally,
I only ever use EQ subtractively, but I used a new tool that didn't
always allow that. But I think it's all fairly basic high-passing
(usually aggressively so on cymbals), scooping out the mids, maybe a bit
of a low end tip on the drums, rolling off a bit of high-end on the
snare (I don't like them too crispy), maybe a bit of a high end lift on
the cymbals, that sort of thing.
> I haven't really tried out A3 yet, I am still working with A2 as my DAW. I
> don't find it limiting though as I record all analog signals right now. I
> have MIDI equipment, but I am still exploring having lots of tracks. When
> I was last recording, I had only 4 tracks and so using one for timecode so
> I could track drums and some other things as MIDI was worthwhile (almost
> 20years ago). Having unlimited tracks is a new experience :)
>
Normally, the only thing I use midi for is over USB to control
LinuxSampler or Hammond and Mellotron virtual instruments. I only have
three synths with midi capability, everything else pre-dates it. Like
you, I record audio played live.
However, I did have to use Ardour's midi capabilities as Hydrogen and
Ardour wouldn't play along nicely, with a weird phasing issue on cymbals
at tempo changes. So, I exported a midi file from H2, imported it into
A3 and drove H2 from Ardour to record the audio.
I've seen people say that "limitless" tracks is a curse, people just
pile on many more layers to the detriment of the music. I might be
partially guilty of that, but I do feel some genres demand more and it
certainly isn't helped by working with non-programmable monophonic
synths to build sounds. I have just counted the tracks and busses...
yikes, 100! Many of those are disabled and others are bounces of three
or four of the disabled ones. I always feel very limited by processing
power as a mix draws to a close :-)
Anyway, thanks for listening.
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Date: Sunday, 21 Apr 2013 02:57
Am 21.04.2013 11:29, schrieb Jeremy Jongepier:
> On 04/21/2013 11:22 AM, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>> ../libgxw/gxw/GxFastMeter.cpp:153:13: nicht implementiert: Graphite loop
>> optimizations can only be used if the libcloog-ppl0 package is installed
>
> Hello Hartmut,
>
> If you want to build guitarix with the --optimization flag you need to
> install libcloog-ppl0.
>
> Jeremy
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And if you like to check out the LV2 plugs, you need to add --build-lv2
to the configure command. ;-)
greets
hermann
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> On 04/21/2013 11:22 AM, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>> ../libgxw/gxw/GxFastMeter.cpp:153:13: nicht implementiert: Graphite loop
>> optimizations can only be used if the libcloog-ppl0 package is installed
>
> Hello Hartmut,
>
> If you want to build guitarix with the --optimization flag you need to
> install libcloog-ppl0.
>
> Jeremy
> _______________________________________________
And if you like to check out the LV2 plugs, you need to add --build-lv2
to the configure command. ;-)
greets
hermann
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